Comments on: Historical histrionics

By: JPC (via email)

JPC (via email) — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:44:44 +0000

Si ces arbres étaient “près de Rouen”, je crois savoir qu’aucun Américain n’a combattu dans cette région, qui était dans le secteur britannique.

Ce sont les Canadiens de la 3DI, 9th brigade (Scottish), qui ont pénétrés les premiers dans la capitale normande, le 30 aout 1944. Les Américains, à cette date étaient déjà au delà de Paris, ayant dépassé Leclerc et les Français Libres.

Des Américains sont passés par Rouen (et le Havre) bien plus tard. Il y en a eu beaucoup en traitement à l’Hopital de Rouen lorsque cette ville s’est trouvée “à l’arrière”. Bien entendu c’était la route normale pour tous ceux qui sont repartis aux Etats-Unis, en 1945 et plus tard.

Ces graffitis sont certes une curiosité, mais rien n’indique qu’ils soient l’oeuvre de combattants.
Faut-il classer monuments historiques tous les “Kelly was here” dans tous les ports d’Europe?

Les Canadiens – et les Anglais – ont été accueillis et fêtés chaque année à Caen et à Rouen depuis 1944. J’ai rencontré à cette époque le Général Crerar (qui a sa rue à Caen) et il m’a fait l’honneur de m’inviter à déjeuner à Montréal en 1958 lorsque j’étais étudiant.

Je ne crois pas que les vétérans américains aient été moins bien célébrés dans l’Ouest de la Normandie, quelque soit l’opinion que la plupart des Français ont de l’Amérique d’aujourd’hui et de ses insultes. De toute façon leur âge, aujourd’hui, suffirait à leur assurer un accueil chaleureux.

Je n’ai trouvé qu’un site relatif à la libération de Rouen, qui a fait moins de bruit que celle de Caen. Par contre Rouen a été bombardé pendant toute la guerre , et de quelle façon . Il faut relire Pierre Clostermann – pilote de chasse et Français Libre – à ce sujet.

dday-overlord.forumactif.com/quizz-f41/enigme-sur-rouen-t12093

By: admin

admin — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:25:42 +0000

Might be interesting to get some stats…

By: André Wernesson

André Wernesson — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:13:37 +0000

“…most French-bashers are actually 15-25 year old airmchair generals…”

Indeed they are. Computer games are our misfortune.

By: MIQUELON

MIQUELON — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:15:42 +0000

Bang on poilu !

By: poilu

poilu — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:58:52 +0000

The land is under private ownership. The owner can do what he wants. Given the USA prides itselfs on the fact that anyone can own land and have possession of “Private Property”, I find the rampant French-bashing over this issue to be particularly retarded. The obvious ignorance of this fact leads me to believe that most French-bashers are actually 15-25 year old airmchair generals, sitting comfortable at their parent’s home in their little whitey-tighties, typing on their parent’s computer.

By: Barney hasn't left the building

Barney hasn't left the building — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:51:43 +0000

” But if it’s done it’s done, and there will be hell to pay.”

is that a threat ?

By: dany bloom

dany bloom — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:07:55 +0000

Sixty years later, the trees have grown old and were deemed unsafe by local officials : the owner of the land on which they grew decided to fell them.

So it was one man, one landowner, whatever his reasons, he made a mistake. But it’s done. They can;t be put back. His PR faux pas is beyond belief, but to blame France or all French people for this is insane. Just one stupid man.

By: dany bloom

dany bloom — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:42:51 +0000

This is indeed an unfortunate turn of events, but when I read the Times story online and the comments, many of the comments were sticking up for France and especially the people of Normandy, so there’s been both pro and con on this. Of course, the bureaucratic decision to knock those old trees down was a bit un-diplomatique as they say, and a kind of stupid idea. But if it’s done it’s done, and there will be hell to pay. This is not about anti-French jokes, this was a stupid action on the part of the French government, or one part of that government, and it’s gonna reverbereate for a long time, sad to say. They should have foreseen this reaction would be coming. In this case, I think the Paris govt needs to be reprimanded by this website for a very bad PR decision…….they must have known this would happen. what were they thinking? But yes, of course, the anti-French sentiments indicated in many of the anti French comments are pure wrong. The French people did not order the trees cut down? WHO DID? WHO IS THE MAN TO BLAME FOR THIS? His punishment should be to come live in the USA for 12 years….haha

By: Miquelon

Miquelon — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:11:12 +0000

Exactly – Quite unfortunate to see how this “fait divers” was instrumentalized. But what worries me is how easy the outrage is expressed by regular users. They now have a prefabricated script for anti-French outrage, the consequence of complete political inaction from our diplomatic network.

By: fx

fx — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:29:51 +0000

The Times is in the hands of Rupert Murdoch. They are the same bunch of racist thugs, although one set of so-called journalists speaks to the upper class and the other to the lower class. They are all trolls for Murdoch and his favorite causes, of which francophobia is one of the easiest.

By: Onion Johnny

Onion Johnny — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:33:01 +0000

Vous savez le Drudge Report n’est pas franchement connu pour sa neutralité, il est malheureux que ce site est autant d’influence, et pas seulement à cause de sa francophobie.
Pour ce qui est du Times, et bien c’est le Times que voulez-vous : il est francophobe par nature ainsi que la plupart de ses lecteurs. C’est The Sun, la culture en plus.
Je ne pense pas qu’il faille s’en inquiéter outre mesure, sauf si ça atteint le reste des médias (la TV surtout). Mais après tout Marion Cotillard peut remettre en cause la thèse officielle du 9/11 et s’en tirer à peu de frais, alors pour une histoire vieille de 60 ans…

By: André Wernesson

André Wernesson — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:14:01 +0000

It seems to be an anglo-saxon character trait. The Brits also liberated Spain from Napoleon singlehandedly (never mind the Spanish “resistance”, they were the biggest mythical joke that ever existed…) beat Boney at Waterloo without Blücher (that Prussian old fart? Ha!) and Malborough’s army had no allies in it at all. Not one filthy continental wog amongst that blessed band, they few, they happy few, those fine honest tommies.

Sigh…

By: admin

admin — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:33:53 +0000

Why Matt Drudge is misleading

Memorial: a structure erected to commemorate persons or events (wordnet.princeton.edu)

memorial |mɪˈmɔːrɪəl|
1. something, esp. a structure, established to remind people of a person or event

The G.I. trees are not “memorials” as they were not erected.

By: Miquelon

Miquelon — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:18:00 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines histrionic personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. Is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2. Interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3. Displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4. Consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5. Has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6. Shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7. Is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8. Considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.