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		<title>By: Hillblogger</title>
		<link>http://www.miquelon.org/2008/11/14/adieu-bush-adieu-cheney/comment-page-5/#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s any consolation, there is a standing summons that will be served to Rumsfeld(and I think in Belgium too) if ever he musters the courage to set foot in Germany for accusations of war crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s any consolation, there is a standing summons that will be served to Rumsfeld(and I think in Belgium too) if ever he musters the courage to set foot in Germany for accusations of war crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,


I can relay to that. I was living in San-francisco, right before the rise of dark ages in 2000 election, and I never heard french bashing that time, nor perceived animosity from the locals wasp community.
After the 2003 debate I was just settling down in Ireland, and I still can remember the french bashing starting right with the opposition of the french to the Anglo-American pathetic pissing contest in Irak.
It started in Sky news, english broadcast, and was all over interview and press conference given by neoconist like rumfield and its idiotic peers.
It remains me of the anti-french bashing that took place in germany in the 30&#039;&#039;, and which ultimatly lead to the 2nd wold war. The parrale you can draw between Nazi Germany and Neoconist USA is that for example all reference to the peace movement in France illustrated by the &quot;la grande illusion&quot;, a reference to the stupidity of war, and the peacefull nature of simple people, where bared form entering Germany, and labelled by the nazi, as Ennemi movie no 1.
In teh same time, back to the post-2003, many french writters, movies had a very hard time being showed in the USA.
But most alarming of all, is the inclination from all American to give into that french bashing.
I think mostly, it was caused self-denial and fear.
What we can hope for, is that the USA will loose for good its hegenomy, and that it will increasingly step further in deline.
I used to love the USA before 2003, but I despise it nowadays, and do not trust it anymore, not because of the french bashing, but becuase it try to silence the voice of liberty and raison in the name of democracy and freedom.That shows a great deal about this country and how it cannot be trusted anymore.
It&#039;s time we, as continental European end our tolerance of the USA, and start governing without the meddling of USA.
Anyway, for what I see in Shanghai  ( I&#039;m running a company there), is that of all expatriates there, most of the Americans I see work either as English Teacher or for big corporation, I&#039;ve been here 5 years and met only 2 American entrepreneurs, but countless entrepreneur of french nationality, starting their business here.
So much for the much self acclaimed American Entrepreneurial Spirit.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I can relay to that. I was living in San-francisco, right before the rise of dark ages in 2000 election, and I never heard french bashing that time, nor perceived animosity from the locals wasp community.<br />
After the 2003 debate I was just settling down in Ireland, and I still can remember the french bashing starting right with the opposition of the french to the Anglo-American pathetic pissing contest in Irak.<br />
It started in Sky news, english broadcast, and was all over interview and press conference given by neoconist like rumfield and its idiotic peers.<br />
It remains me of the anti-french bashing that took place in germany in the 30&#8221;, and which ultimatly lead to the 2nd wold war. The parrale you can draw between Nazi Germany and Neoconist USA is that for example all reference to the peace movement in France illustrated by the &#8220;la grande illusion&#8221;, a reference to the stupidity of war, and the peacefull nature of simple people, where bared form entering Germany, and labelled by the nazi, as Ennemi movie no 1.<br />
In teh same time, back to the post-2003, many french writters, movies had a very hard time being showed in the USA.<br />
But most alarming of all, is the inclination from all American to give into that french bashing.<br />
I think mostly, it was caused self-denial and fear.<br />
What we can hope for, is that the USA will loose for good its hegenomy, and that it will increasingly step further in deline.<br />
I used to love the USA before 2003, but I despise it nowadays, and do not trust it anymore, not because of the french bashing, but becuase it try to silence the voice of liberty and raison in the name of democracy and freedom.That shows a great deal about this country and how it cannot be trusted anymore.<br />
It&#8217;s time we, as continental European end our tolerance of the USA, and start governing without the meddling of USA.<br />
Anyway, for what I see in Shanghai  ( I&#8217;m running a company there), is that of all expatriates there, most of the Americans I see work either as English Teacher or for big corporation, I&#8217;ve been here 5 years and met only 2 American entrepreneurs, but countless entrepreneur of french nationality, starting their business here.<br />
So much for the much self acclaimed American Entrepreneurial Spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree, Marc.

But I&#039;m afraid that, when the International Court of Justice at long last indicts that sorry bunch, our grounds for litigation will be very small in comparison with those of the millions who died in a war of aggression which they conspired to launch and to wage (the very same indictment which sent a few dozen German leaders swinging from a rope in Nuremberg).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree, Marc.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m afraid that, when the International Court of Justice at long last indicts that sorry bunch, our grounds for litigation will be very small in comparison with those of the millions who died in a war of aggression which they conspired to launch and to wage (the very same indictment which sent a few dozen German leaders swinging from a rope in Nuremberg).</p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/rove-media-propaganda/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proof positive French Bashing&lt;/a&gt; in the media came from Rove ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/rove-media-propaganda/" rel="nofollow">Proof positive French Bashing</a> in the media came from Rove ?</p>
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		<title>By: André Wernesson</title>
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		<dc:creator>André Wernesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be vital to draw attention from the French government; this could be done with a sufficiently large petition. The petition, the existence of sites such as this and SF, and Sarkoléon&#039;s national pride could well be catalysts for the success of our mission; especially considering that, with Obama&#039;s rise to power, there&#039;s a general atmosphere of goodwill and a will to please the United States; I think it could work, especially with the positive scope offered by Claude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be vital to draw attention from the French government; this could be done with a sufficiently large petition. The petition, the existence of sites such as this and SF, and Sarkoléon&#8217;s national pride could well be catalysts for the success of our mission; especially considering that, with Obama&#8217;s rise to power, there&#8217;s a general atmosphere of goodwill and a will to please the United States; I think it could work, especially with the positive scope offered by Claude.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaudeDeltieure</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClaudeDeltieure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So: What to do?
First, understand that if your friends like you, that&#039;s a positive for French-American relations. Public opinion is just that. If we are the fourth largest ethnic group in the country, individually we count a lot.
Second, understand that America suffers from Attention Deficit Syndrome: It gets it&#039;s messages and knowledge in sound bites. Unfortunately, lots of kids have learned to hate the French. It&#039;s going to take positive feedback, not bitter words, to change things, and you should aim at youth, because as we all know, adults believe what they believe, period.
Third, time for the French government to get off its ass and conduct a publicity campaign here. There is a Catholic modesty thing going on in French PR efforts: Americans are just supposed to know that they should include French consciousness, culture, and cuisine in their lives. Why? Nobody tells them, really. Look at this society: We have Columbus day saluting an Italian hero, St. Patrick&#039;s Day saluting an Irish icon; a pretty good knowledge of most major Jewish holidays, and now we&#039;re learning African heritage through Kwanzaa and even Muslim culture with increasing post-911 publicity about such religious observances as Ramadan. Is there one French day of note? In New york, Bastille Day is celebrated by closing off one half block. Right now, the French might as well be Bosnians as far as being in American minds. &quot;The French? Hey, don&#039;t they make perfume and run at the first sign of trouble?&quot; But go to France and you find the people there actually think Americans keep up with France as France keeps up with America. C&#039;est triste.
The lesson here is that vacuums are vacuums and they will be filled by someone else if you don&#039;t step in first. Next time this happens, see you at the French-American marcgh in Washington, and in the defamation lawsuit as it reaches class-action status. But until then, see you in earnest conversations all across the country...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So: What to do?<br />
First, understand that if your friends like you, that&#8217;s a positive for French-American relations. Public opinion is just that. If we are the fourth largest ethnic group in the country, individually we count a lot.<br />
Second, understand that America suffers from Attention Deficit Syndrome: It gets it&#8217;s messages and knowledge in sound bites. Unfortunately, lots of kids have learned to hate the French. It&#8217;s going to take positive feedback, not bitter words, to change things, and you should aim at youth, because as we all know, adults believe what they believe, period.<br />
Third, time for the French government to get off its ass and conduct a publicity campaign here. There is a Catholic modesty thing going on in French PR efforts: Americans are just supposed to know that they should include French consciousness, culture, and cuisine in their lives. Why? Nobody tells them, really. Look at this society: We have Columbus day saluting an Italian hero, St. Patrick&#8217;s Day saluting an Irish icon; a pretty good knowledge of most major Jewish holidays, and now we&#8217;re learning African heritage through Kwanzaa and even Muslim culture with increasing post-911 publicity about such religious observances as Ramadan. Is there one French day of note? In New york, Bastille Day is celebrated by closing off one half block. Right now, the French might as well be Bosnians as far as being in American minds. &#8220;The French? Hey, don&#8217;t they make perfume and run at the first sign of trouble?&#8221; But go to France and you find the people there actually think Americans keep up with France as France keeps up with America. C&#8217;est triste.<br />
The lesson here is that vacuums are vacuums and they will be filled by someone else if you don&#8217;t step in first. Next time this happens, see you at the French-American marcgh in Washington, and in the defamation lawsuit as it reaches class-action status. But until then, see you in earnest conversations all across the country&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Dobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..&lt;em&gt;This is not a liberal rant; this is not a left-wing diatribe nor is it a politically motivated article...&quot;



Good thing you mentioned that...because it had all the trappings of it...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..<em>This is not a liberal rant; this is not a left-wing diatribe nor is it a politically motivated article&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Good thing you mentioned that&#8230;because it had all the trappings of it&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote a new entry on the site.
Just when you think it dies down, French Bashing pops up somewhere else. It&#039;s just like whack-a-mole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote a new entry on the site.<br />
Just when you think it dies down, French Bashing pops up somewhere else. It&#8217;s just like whack-a-mole.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miquelon,

Anti-French comments coming from parochial commenters, whatever their political or cultural colour are as you say garbage and might I repeat, pure, unadulterated crap!

They&#039;re thinking and talking from thei backsides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miquelon,</p>
<p>Anti-French comments coming from parochial commenters, whatever their political or cultural colour are as you say garbage and might I repeat, pure, unadulterated crap!</p>
<p>They&#8217;re thinking and talking from thei backsides.</p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment section is just replete with anti-French garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment section is just replete with anti-French garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tmz.com/2008/11/28/brit-performs-french-surrender/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brit Performs, French Surrender&lt;/a&gt;&quot; - Very disappointed by TMZ&#039;s French Bashing. By referring to the 1940 surrender to describe some pop culture news, TMZ is showing utter contempt and disdain for a people and their history. To the French, the 1940 surrender is as funny as 9/11 is to Americans. Please show some cultural understanding the next time you wish to write something about France or the French. 

&quot;No other national or ethnic group appears to get the same continually negative treatment in print media reserved for France and the French, with the possible exception of Arabs or Palestinians, and even there, the treatment is not so much cultural as political, linked to a specific context or event.If one were to substitute, for example, &quot;Mexican&quot; or &quot;Japanese&quot; or &quot;Indian&quot; for &quot;French&quot;, what would reader reaction be?&quot;. Edward C.Knox, May 2002</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.tmz.com/2008/11/28/brit-performs-french-surrender/" rel="nofollow">Brit Performs, French Surrender</a>&#8221; &#8211; Very disappointed by TMZ&#8217;s French Bashing. By referring to the 1940 surrender to describe some pop culture news, TMZ is showing utter contempt and disdain for a people and their history. To the French, the 1940 surrender is as funny as 9/11 is to Americans. Please show some cultural understanding the next time you wish to write something about France or the French. </p>
<p>&#8220;No other national or ethnic group appears to get the same continually negative treatment in print media reserved for France and the French, with the possible exception of Arabs or Palestinians, and even there, the treatment is not so much cultural as political, linked to a specific context or event.If one were to substitute, for example, &#8220;Mexican&#8221; or &#8220;Japanese&#8221; or &#8220;Indian&#8221; for &#8220;French&#8221;, what would reader reaction be?&#8221;. Edward C.Knox, May 2002</p>
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		<title>By: Hillblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miquelon,

Hah! N&#039;est-il pas plus approprié de souhaiter aux américains happy thanksgiving  en français ?

Btw, didn&#039;t know that Anne Sinclair had a blog... thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miquelon,</p>
<p>Hah! N&#8217;est-il pas plus approprié de souhaiter aux américains happy thanksgiving  en français ?</p>
<p>Btw, didn&#8217;t know that Anne Sinclair had a blog&#8230; thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://annesinclair.typepad.fr/journal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thanksgiving and Anne&lt;/a&gt;, my &lt;a href=&quot;http://annesinclair.typepad.fr/journal/2008/11/bon-thanksgiving-%C3%A0-tous.html#comment-140564024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bad&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://annesinclair.typepad.fr/journal/" rel="nofollow">Thanksgiving and Anne</a>, my <a href="http://annesinclair.typepad.fr/journal/2008/11/bon-thanksgiving-%C3%A0-tous.html#comment-140564024" rel="nofollow">bad</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Miquelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miquelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillblogger, thanks for the link. War has broken out over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/7fv2f/americas_real_first_pilgrims_they_were_french/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt; over this article and a few choice words I may have posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillblogger, thanks for the link. War has broken out over at <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/7fv2f/americas_real_first_pilgrims_they_were_french/" rel="nofollow">Reddit</a> over this article and a few choice words I may have posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, sorry about that Miquelon: Here&#039;s a better version:

Did you know that America owes France their Thanksgiving Day too?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hillblogger3.blogspot.com/2008/11/first-european-arrivals-seeking.html#links&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thanksgiving Day: The first European arrivals seeking religious freedom in the “New World” were French&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, sorry about that Miquelon: Here&#8217;s a better version:</p>
<p>Did you know that America owes France their Thanksgiving Day too?</p>
<p><a href="http://hillblogger3.blogspot.com/2008/11/first-european-arrivals-seeking.html#links" rel="nofollow">Thanksgiving Day: The first European arrivals seeking religious freedom in the “New World” were French</a></p>
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