Comments on: French Bashers hit Twitter http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/ Monitoring Anti-French Activity Since 2003 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:00:38 -0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Miquelon.org - The Fighting French » Monitoring Anti-French Activity » About That “French Surrender” Thing .. http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-3002 Miquelon.org - The Fighting French » Monitoring Anti-French Activity » About That “French Surrender” Thing .. Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:14:26 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-3002 [...] also: French Bashers hit twitter @ Miquelon.org [...] [...] also: French Bashers hit twitter @ Miquelon.org [...]

]]> By: Angry African http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2973 Angry African Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:10:31 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2973 Mmm... Interesting. The old "you are either on my side or against me"? Not everybody wants to be on a side on this one. Do I tell jokes that offend people? Abso-bloody-lutely. But I am always willing to do it in front of the person who are at the receiving end of my jokes. Maybe it is a South African thing. We stereotype every type of South African and laugh about it. Why? Because we know it isn't true and this way we actually break down the tension by joking about ourselves. So... When I tell a joke about "French" and "surrender" it is meant as the opposite. Those who know me and my background will know I am playing it back at them or laughing at the stereotype. However... If I see this on Fox then I am offended because they mean it instead of joking about it. Lastly, Americans don't sanitize everything. Maybe African American jokes but even then not by too much. They joke about the stereotypes to play it back at people. It's a fine line though. Mmm… Interesting. The old “you are either on my side or against me”? Not everybody wants to be on a side on this one. Do I tell jokes that offend people? Abso-bloody-lutely. But I am always willing to do it in front of the person who are at the receiving end of my jokes. Maybe it is a South African thing. We stereotype every type of South African and laugh about it. Why? Because we know it isn’t true and this way we actually break down the tension by joking about ourselves. So… When I tell a joke about “French” and “surrender” it is meant as the opposite. Those who know me and my background will know I am playing it back at them or laughing at the stereotype. However… If I see this on Fox then I am offended because they mean it instead of joking about it.

Lastly, Americans don’t sanitize everything. Maybe African American jokes but even then not by too much. They joke about the stereotypes to play it back at people. It’s a fine line though.

]]> By: André Wernesson http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2936 André Wernesson Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:30:04 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2936 Angry African, anyone who says "French" and "surrender" in the same phrase is certainly <strong>NOT</strong> on my side. He may be more or less inocuous, but he certainly isn't. If you're African (as I suppose by your name), what do you think of the old racist Disney cartoons? People watched them just "for laughs", and people told jokes about black people, fried chicken and watermelon "just for laughs". But would you take that kind of shit? I don't think so. The US are nice and sanitized for African-Americans, Jews, Italian-Americans, &c. Why can't WE get a break as well? Angry African,

anyone who says “French” and “surrender” in the same phrase is certainly NOT on my side. He may be more or less inocuous, but he certainly isn’t.

If you’re African (as I suppose by your name), what do you think of the old racist Disney cartoons? People watched them just “for laughs”, and people told jokes about black people, fried chicken and watermelon “just for laughs”. But would you take that kind of shit? I don’t think so.

The US are nice and sanitized for African-Americans, Jews, Italian-Americans, &c. Why can’t WE get a break as well?

]]> By: Angry African http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2935 Angry African Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:56:39 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2935 I do think you need to rethink your strategy when responding to "tweets" about the French. You need to get some context of each person who makes a comment. Reason? Well, sometimes people don't bash but are actually just having fun - and those who know them will know what they are saying. The same way people might say the "fat Americans" or whatever. Not everything said about France and surrender is meant to insult the French. Get the context and get the person behind the comment. Or else you will be killing fires in a desert instead of killing the proper fires hurting you. Not everyone making a joke or a comment is a Fox supporting right-wing lunatic. Do some research and get the context or else you might make enemies of people who could actually be on your side. I do think you need to rethink your strategy when responding to “tweets” about the French. You need to get some context of each person who makes a comment. Reason? Well, sometimes people don’t bash but are actually just having fun – and those who know them will know what they are saying. The same way people might say the “fat Americans” or whatever. Not everything said about France and surrender is meant to insult the French. Get the context and get the person behind the comment. Or else you will be killing fires in a desert instead of killing the proper fires hurting you. Not everyone making a joke or a comment is a Fox supporting right-wing lunatic. Do some research and get the context or else you might make enemies of people who could actually be on your side.

]]> By: Xavier Kreiss http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2878 Xavier Kreiss Mon, 25 May 2009 09:18:18 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2878     Yes, we were badly prepared, expecting a war like the previous one. And badly led - the shortcomings of the French and British high commands and their strategic thinking have been well documented.   The Germans unleashed a new kind of warfare: Blitzkrieg. Neither we nor our British allies knew how to face it.   Any analysis, even a superficial one, of the situation in June 1940 shows that we had lost. Further fightng would have been futile. Our British allies knew this too, and went home (wisely) to continue the struggle.   They had an advantage over us: the Channel, which made a massive land assault against them impossible. They had to face an air war, and they did so magnificently.   But without the Channel, if Britain had face a land invasion, it is highly probable that it, too, would have fallen.   It took nearly five years for the British, then the Soviets (June 41), then the Americans (December 41), not to mention the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders etc, to defeat nazi Germany.   Is it surprising if  France fell so quickly?   To continue with the cheap, despicable "surrender" jokes is an insult to all those who fought and died in that war.   A war in which many Americans also gave their lives. And for this, France will forever be grateful.  
 
Yes, we were badly prepared, expecting a war like the previous one. And badly led – the shortcomings of the French and British high commands and their strategic thinking have been well documented.
 
The Germans unleashed a new kind of warfare: Blitzkrieg. Neither we nor our British allies knew how to face it.
 
Any analysis, even a superficial one, of the situation in June 1940 shows that we had lost. Further fightng would have been futile. Our British allies knew this too, and went home (wisely) to continue the struggle.
 
They had an advantage over us: the Channel, which made a massive land assault against them impossible. They had to face an air war, and they did so magnificently.
 
But without the Channel, if Britain had face a land invasion, it is highly probable that it, too, would have fallen.
 
It took nearly five years for the British, then the Soviets (June 41), then the Americans (December 41), not to mention the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders etc, to defeat nazi Germany.
 
Is it surprising if  France fell so quickly?
 
To continue with the cheap, despicable “surrender” jokes is an insult to all those who fought and died in that war.
 
A war in which many Americans also gave their lives. And for this, France will forever be grateful.

]]> By: Fred Orth http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2863 Fred Orth Sun, 24 May 2009 02:54:40 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2863 One to four really isn't all that bad. I would imagine that the UK and Germany get that many, per day,  bashing them for WWII. We're never going to totally eliminate ignorance but your efforts should minimize them. Good for you. One to four really isn’t all that bad. I would imagine that the UK and Germany get that many, per day,  bashing them for WWII. We’re never going to totally eliminate ignorance but your efforts should minimize them. Good for you.

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2843 Miquelon Sat, 23 May 2009 00:30:05 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2843 On average, there are between 1 and 4 tweets a day that mock the 1940 defeat of France. Most are from the USA. Thanks trickle-down hatred. On average, there are between 1 and 4 tweets a day that mock the 1940 defeat of France. Most are from the USA. Thanks trickle-down hatred.

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-4/#comment-2842 Miquelon Sat, 23 May 2009 00:24:14 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2842 Starting to feel like a <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=french+surrender+miquelon" rel="nofollow">twitter-sniper</a>. Every day I reply to all those who mock the French defeat of 1940. Starting to feel like a twitter-sniper. Every day I reply to all those who mock the French defeat of 1940.

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2724 Miquelon Wed, 13 May 2009 01:40:12 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2724 2000 ans d'histoire. La campagne de France mai-juin 1940 http://bit.ly/18ndah Cette émission est si intéressante que j'aimerais en faire un résumé pour le site. 100 000 morts en quelques jours, 2000 soldats français morts par jour, la bataille de Lille, la sauvegarde de l'armée britannique par les troupes françaises, le colonel de Gaulle, la duplicité de Paul Raynaud, le défaitisme de l'état major, mais des millions d'hommes qui se sont battus ! 2000 ans d’histoire. La campagne de France mai-juin 1940 http://bit.ly/18ndah
Cette émission est si intéressante que j’aimerais en faire un résumé pour le site. 100 000 morts en quelques jours, 2000 soldats français morts par jour, la bataille de Lille, la sauvegarde de l’armée britannique par les troupes françaises, le colonel de Gaulle, la duplicité de Paul Raynaud, le défaitisme de l’état major, mais des millions d’hommes qui se sont battus !

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2722 Miquelon Tue, 12 May 2009 18:35:11 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2722 It's official, I'm now addicted to twitter. By mining favorite searches I can immediately reply to anti-French jokes on a daily basis. So far the reactions have been very varied from (a) hostility (b) annoyance (c) apologies to (d) new friends ! Sisyphe ou Don Quichotte? It’s official, I’m now addicted to twitter. By mining favorite searches I can immediately reply to anti-French jokes on a daily basis. So far the reactions have been very varied from (a) hostility (b) annoyance (c) apologies to (d) new friends !

Sisyphe ou Don Quichotte?

]]> By: Barney hasn't left the building http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2708 Barney hasn't left the building Sun, 10 May 2009 11:06:12 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2708 <em>#27 ""Another <a href="http://twitter.com/frenchhater" rel="nofollow">French Hater</a> on twitter with his own <a href="http://www.ihatefrenchpeople.com/" rel="nofollow">blog</a>."" </em>Seriously, I'm not sure if this guy is serious or not. If he is, his blog entries are beyond retarded. It's as if it was written by 10 year old<em> ffrance.com </em>reject. I cannot believe this is real. <em> </em> #27
“”Another French Hater on twitter with his own blog.”"

Seriously, I’m not sure if this guy is serious or not. If he is, his blog entries are beyond retarded. It’s as if it was written by 10 year old ffrance.com reject.
I cannot believe this is real.

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2704 Miquelon Sat, 09 May 2009 22:54:58 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2704 Another <a href="http://twitter.com/frenchhater" rel="nofollow">French Hater</a> on twitter with his own <a href="http://www.ihatefrenchpeople.com" rel="nofollow">blog</a>. Too cowardly to publish his real identity or whois. An advertising executive in France who has a pathological hatred for all things French. Another French Hater on twitter with his own blog. Too cowardly to publish his real identity or whois. An advertising executive in France who has a pathological hatred for all things French.

]]> By: André Wernesson http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2692 André Wernesson Wed, 06 May 2009 07:45:56 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2692 Looks like they've launched the U.S.S. Freedom anti-pirate ship. Blast, "freedom" is a word you just can't avoid in the U.S. nowadays. I remember, last time I was in the U.S. around 2004 for a couple of months, all I could hear was "freedom". Freedom this, freedom that, freedamn, dammit! Looks like they’ve launched the U.S.S. Freedom anti-pirate ship. Blast, “freedom” is a word you just can’t avoid in the U.S. nowadays. I remember, last time I was in the U.S. around 2004 for a couple of months, all I could hear was “freedom”. Freedom this, freedom that, freedamn, dammit!

]]> By: Thibault http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2685 Thibault Tue, 05 May 2009 19:43:19 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2685 @Fred Orth : If you'd ask me  I would replied that they're a bunch of lazy communists, that's why there are strikes at the univeristy, but I doubt many share my views ahah :P @Fred Orth :

If you’d ask me  I would replied that they’re a bunch of lazy communists, that’s why there are strikes at the univeristy, but I doubt many share my views ahah :P

]]> By: Fred Orth http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/comment-page-3/#comment-2671 Fred Orth Mon, 04 May 2009 21:58:06 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/2009/04/29/french-bashers-hit-twitter/#comment-2671 FrancisK (23), Great to hear from you! Please give me some insight. I am hearing that there are several strikes at Universities around France. I have never thought that disrupting educations were anything but a disaster. Are they on a disturbing scale or are they minimal?   Why would kids want to messup their and others obtainment of a degree? Over here, a lot of people can't afford to stay in school too long before they have to go out and make money. I know that attendance is more economical in France, but, isn't there pressure for the students to get out into the world? FrancisK (23), Great to hear from you! Please give me some insight. I am hearing that there are several strikes at Universities around France. I have never thought that disrupting educations were anything but a disaster. Are they on a disturbing scale or are they minimal?   Why would kids want to messup their and others obtainment of a degree? Over here, a lot of people can’t afford to stay in school too long before they have to go out and make money. I know that attendance is more economical in France, but, isn’t there pressure for the students to get out into the world?

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