Comments on: Glenn Beck’s Hatred of the French http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/ Monitoring Anti-French Activity Since 2003 Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:12:09 -0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Irmin http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-2/#comment-3994 Irmin Sun, 02 May 2010 18:04:00 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3994 Hallo du echt tollen Weblog betreibst du. Ich selber habe auch schon länger eine eigene homepage programmiert, eine Suchmaschiene. Momentan noch erreichbar unter beta.jerome.de . Währe toll wenn du mir berichtest wie du sie findest und was noch doof daran ist. Ein Redesign kommt erst im laufe der Woche noch dazu. Schönes Wochenende - 345zhf4 Hallo du echt tollen Weblog betreibst du. Ich selber habe auch schon länger eine eigene homepage programmiert, eine Suchmaschiene. Momentan noch erreichbar unter beta.jerome.de . Währe toll wenn du mir berichtest wie du sie findest und was noch doof daran ist. Ein Redesign kommt erst im laufe der Woche noch dazu. Schönes Wochenende – 345zhf4

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-2/#comment-3834 Miquelon Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:04:21 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3834 Sorry about that, it's fixed now. Sorry about that, it’s fixed now.

]]> By: DOMY http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-2/#comment-3833 DOMY Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:42:01 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3833 Impossible d'envoyer un mail à Miquelon, marche pas. Donc je poste ici : Weird Al Yankovic : " Genius In France " http://superfrenchie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=706&p=13503#p13503 Impossible d’envoyer un mail à Miquelon, marche pas.
Donc je poste ici :

Weird Al Yankovic : ” Genius In France ”
http://superfrenchie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=706&p=13503#p13503

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-2/#comment-3828 Miquelon Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:42:32 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3828 First degree  - groundskeeper Willie - ignorant and brash Second degree - groundskeeper Willie - speaks his mind, says truths other do not dare say Conclusion: groundskeeper Willie is a vehicle for non-PC language and stereotypes that are part of the writer's construct, he's their safe outlet for hate-speech. First degree  – groundskeeper Willie – ignorant and brash
Second degree – groundskeeper Willie – speaks his mind, says truths other do not dare say
Conclusion: groundskeeper Willie is a vehicle for non-PC language and stereotypes that are part of the writer’s construct, he’s their safe outlet for hate-speech.

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3823 Moktarama Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:14:45 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3823 @André Wernesson : Coming from a dumb scottish analphabet like groundskeeper Willie (which is really a bad stereotype for scottish people, one they could easily be offended with) , not very much. @André Wernesson :

Coming from a dumb scottish analphabet like groundskeeper Willie (which is really a bad stereotype for scottish people, one they could easily be offended with) , not very much.

]]> By: Fred Orth http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3822 Fred Orth Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:13:19 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3822 I'm not so sure that this isn't a good thing. Of course Beck's base will eat this up - as they always do. My point is that Beck's comments place France in very good company, ie. science, education, culture, humanity, justice, peace, equality. All in all, I would rather be on the side of that which Beck condems than be inside his lovefest. I believe that the majority of Americans would agree with me. I’m not so sure that this isn’t a good thing. Of course Beck’s base will eat this up – as they always do. My point is that Beck’s comments place France in very good company, ie. science, education, culture, humanity, justice, peace, equality. All in all, I would rather be on the side of that which Beck condems than be inside his lovefest. I believe that the majority of Americans would agree with me.

]]> By: André Wernesson http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3821 André Wernesson Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:11:28 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3821 Pardon me, Moktarama, but are you saying that being called a cowardly, cheese-eating primate is not offensive? In my opinion, "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" is, by FAR, the most offensive and hateful anti-French slur. Pardon me, Moktarama, but are you saying that being called a cowardly, cheese-eating primate is not offensive?

In my opinion, “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” is, by FAR, the most offensive and hateful anti-French slur.

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3820 Moktarama Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:48:38 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3820 @Miquelon : The re-use of quotations doesn't seem to me as a proof of anything. It's widely common in the media world to do that. I found (i watched all simpsons episodes) 1, 4 and 5 truly offensive when put back in context. No doubt about that. 2 and 3 aren't in my opinion, like the willie's quotation.   And I'll give you credit abut the video game. All  want to say is : I'm not sure it's "constructif" to fingerpoint the simpsons each time a dumbass is quoting them to prove a point. It diminishes the argument (here about Glenn Beck) IMHO. @Miquelon :

The re-use of quotations doesn’t seem to me as a proof of anything. It’s widely common in the media world to do that.

I found (i watched all simpsons episodes) 1, 4 and 5 truly offensive when put back in context. No doubt about that. 2 and 3 aren’t in my opinion, like the willie’s quotation.   And I’ll give you credit abut the video game.

All  want to say is : I’m not sure it’s “constructif” to fingerpoint the simpsons each time a dumbass is quoting them to prove a point. It diminishes the argument (here about Glenn Beck) IMHO.

]]> By: Miquelon http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3819 Miquelon Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:30:08 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3819 The Simpsons are pop-culture icons who have let their anti-French bias slip time and time again. The "cheese eating surrender monkey" phrase is the most offensive anti-French slur and despite claims it was about context, it's use and re-use by everyone from Jonah Goldberg to Glenn Beck via thousands of tweets is proof enough this slur was intended as a swipe against the French.  [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-French_sentiment_in_the_United_States#Warfare" rel="nofollow">See this entry</a>] More anti-French comments by the Simpsons: <ol> <li><strong>Young Moe</strong>: Are you guys really gonna dive off of here? <strong>Young Lenny</strong>: Not me. I'm shaking like a French soldier. [<span>Season 13, Episode 5]</span></li> <li><span><strong>Hank Scorpio</strong>: </span><span>Homer, what's your least favorite country: Italy or France? <strong>Homer</strong>: France </span><span><strong>Hank Scorpio</strong>: </span><span>Nobody ever says Italy [</span><span>Season 2, episode </span><span>23 "You Only Move Twice" ]</span></li> <li><span><strong>Cesar</strong>: Do not worry.  This is France.  It is customary for children to take a little wine now and then. <strong>Bart</strong>:  Yeah, but it's got anti-freeze in there. - The Crepes of Wrath </span></li> <li><span><strong>Bart</strong>: </span><span>So, basically, I met one nice French person. - The Crepes of Wrath </span></li> <li><span><strong>Lisa Simpson as Joan of Arc: </strong>Victory!?!? We're FRENCH! We don't even have a word for it. [ Season 13, Episode 14 ] </span></li> </ol>And let's not forget the <a href="../../../../2008/04/15/what-do-you-call-67-000-dead-french-citizens-a-joke-according-to-electronic-arts-inc%E2%80%A6/" rel="nofollow">Electronics Arts</a> game where Homer mocks the cowardly French for being " a scared girl, (who doesn't) like being bombed and attacked" The Simpsons are pop-culture icons who have let their anti-French bias slip time and time again. The “cheese eating surrender monkey” phrase is the most offensive anti-French slur and despite claims it was about context, it’s use and re-use by everyone from Jonah Goldberg to Glenn Beck via thousands of tweets is proof enough this slur was intended as a swipe against the French.  [See this entry]

More anti-French comments by the Simpsons:

  1. Young Moe: Are you guys really gonna dive off of here?
    Young Lenny: Not me. I’m shaking like a French soldier. [Season 13, Episode 5]
  2. Hank Scorpio: Homer, what’s your least favorite country: Italy or France?
    Homer: France
    Hank Scorpio: Nobody ever says Italy [Season 2, episode 23 "You Only Move Twice" ]
  3. Cesar: Do not worry.  This is France.  It is customary for children to take a little wine now and then.
    Bart:  Yeah, but it’s got anti-freeze in there. – The Crepes of Wrath
  4. Bart: So, basically, I met one nice French person. – The Crepes of Wrath
  5. Lisa Simpson as Joan of Arc: Victory!?!? We’re FRENCH! We don’t even have a word for it. [ Season 13, Episode 14 ]

And let’s not forget the Electronics Arts game where Homer mocks the cowardly French for being ” a scared girl, (who doesn’t) like being bombed and attacked”

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3817 Moktarama Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:21:42 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3817 Where in my comment do I apologize for Glenn Beck, Barney ? Where in my comment do I apologize for Glenn Beck, Barney ?

]]> By: Barney hasn't left the buliding http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3816 Barney hasn't left the buliding Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:07:59 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3816 Well it happened while I was typing my message. How appropriate. lol Well it happened while I was typing my message.
How appropriate. lol

]]> By: Barney hasn't left the buliding http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3815 Barney hasn't left the buliding Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:06:42 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3815 <em><em>[[the “<strong>surrender monkeys</strong>” and <strong>non-deodorant America-haters</strong> we now know they are.” ]]</em><em> </em> Waiting for the apologists to come and lecture us about our lack of humor and how " Glenn Beck is wrong but..." in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... And what drug is Glenn Beck on anyway ? [[</em><em><em>there was hardly a house in France that didn’t have his portrait in i</em>t</em><em>]] </em> [[the “surrender monkeys” and non-deodorant America-haters we now know they are.” ]]

Waiting for the apologists to come and lecture us about our lack of humor and how ” Glenn Beck is wrong but…” in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

And what drug is Glenn Beck on anyway ?
[[there was hardly a house in France that didn’t have his portrait in it]]

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3814 Moktarama Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:59:15 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3814 A few things, miquelon : First,  please stop bashing the Simpsons. When I saw the episode in which Willie says that, there's no doubt that the sentence is not offensive in the context. Groundskeeper Willie is a stupid scottish in all simpsons episodes. It would be like being offended, when in the english movie "In the loop" , the american general compares war to France (aka a thing you don't want to do again once you done it once and saw how horrible it is) : the french spectators (including me) found that very fun. A bit of autoderision doesn't hurt anyone. Second, everyone knows Glenn Beck is a major lunatic (and a TV genius, clearly) . He knows (or shows indeed) nothing about history, wether it is contemporary or not. He would have taken any sentence depreciative to the french. Let the simpsons aloooooooone ;-) A few things, miquelon :

First,  please stop bashing the Simpsons. When I saw the episode in which Willie says that, there’s no doubt that the sentence is not offensive in the context. Groundskeeper Willie is a stupid scottish in all simpsons episodes. It would be like being offended, when in the english movie “In the loop” , the american general compares war to France (aka a thing you don’t want to do again once you done it once and saw how horrible it is) : the french spectators (including me) found that very fun. A bit of autoderision doesn’t hurt anyone.

Second, everyone knows Glenn Beck is a major lunatic (and a TV genius, clearly) . He knows (or shows indeed) nothing about history, wether it is contemporary or not. He would have taken any sentence depreciative to the french. Let the simpsons aloooooooone ;-)

]]> By: André Wernesson http://www.miquelon.org/2009/12/16/glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-hatred-of-the-french/comment-page-1/#comment-3813 André Wernesson Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:49:52 +0000 http://www.miquelon.org/?p=426#comment-3813 A blast from the past indeed; this human anachronism's speech would have been more at home in 2003 than nowadays! BTW, Marc, perhaps it would be better not to refer to "the 1940 surrender"? Simply because, technically and in all other aspects, it was not a "surrender"; an armistice was signed, and one of the clauses of said armistice was the surrender of those armed forces which were surrounded in the three main pockets. But it was only one clause, and certainly not the most important aspect of it all (I consider the occupation, for instance, to be far more relevant). A blast from the past indeed; this human anachronism’s speech would have been more at home in 2003 than nowadays!

BTW, Marc, perhaps it would be better not to refer to “the 1940 surrender”? Simply because, technically and in all other aspects, it was not a “surrender”; an armistice was signed, and one of the clauses of said armistice was the surrender of those armed forces which were surrounded in the three main pockets. But it was only one clause, and certainly not the most important aspect of it all (I consider the occupation, for instance, to be far more relevant).

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